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John Compost Cossham People often worry about ‘side effects’.
This is a hypothetical situation with made up but not unbelievable figures to illustrate how vaccines benefit society.
There are always some side effects to every medication, in some people. Most medicines do not have severe side effects, and the numbers of people who get side effects are measured in the region of a few per thousand who take the medicine, or a few per ten thousand, ie not very many. However, how do we know whether these side effects are ‘worth’ risking?
In society we tend to look to the ‘greater good’, don’t we? So imagine this hypothetical scenario: If we do nothing, an illness passes through a small town of 10,000 people and 500 people get the illness, and 100 people die every winter. However, if we do something to try to prevent that, such as vaccinating the whole population, or all the vulnerable population, only 10 people die of the thing but sadly one dies of the preventative…. so instead of 100 people dying, 11 die. Which would you prefer? 100 people dying, or 11 people dying?
Additionally when large numbers of people are vaccinated, the disease passes from person to person much more slowly and, if enough people are protected and when the infectious agent is breathed in, they do not succumb to the illness, and thus don’t pass it on, the illness can get stopped in its tracks. This was first noticed in domesticated food animals, hence its name ‘herd immunity’, but it’s evident in humans too, and recently, because of the criminal actions of Wakefield and gullible people who think that ‘big pharma’ is only out to make money (which isn’t true, by the way) the incidence of common but deadly preventable illnesses has started to rise again.
John Compost Cossham EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!
Something has to be having an effect on it and it can’t just be the breeding of shitty genetic lines.
Seriously, why are the cases rising?
John Compost Cossham Autism is a fairly newly understood condition. When I was a child I was just described as odd, disruptive, intelligent but naughty. They didn’t know about ADHD or Autism being distinct things.
In the past month, a friend in his 40s who 21 years ago was diagnosed with bipolar disorder – hyper mania has been re-diagnosed as Aspergers plus hyper mania. He’s the same person and hasn’t suddenly ‘become autistic’, but the set of behaviours he exhibits fits this named condition far better. So the numbers jumped up another one with him. He will now receive more appropriate treatment and help.
Tania Thorn I’d absolutely second the point about recognition. I’m a psychologist working in secondary care and I’ve seen the situation shift from colleagues having a pretty good idea that their clients were on the asd spectrum, but being reluctant to share that hypothesis with them because they weren’t in a position to formally diagnose them (I always pushed them to tell people their ideas anyway; I think people have a right to know even tentative hypotheses), to a situation where we have an adult ASD clinic. I’ve referred clients in their 70s where it has high explanatory value but it has never been considered because it wasn’t a thing when they were younger.
So, absolutely, not just an increase in recognition for youngsters, but also a lot more adults.
Personally, working in dementia, I feel that although everyone’s different, many people benefit from having a framework for what’s going on, even if it might be a label associated with some stigma. I’ve met some very clever and interesting people on the asd spectrum who certainly see it that way.
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Here’s a bit of basic Feynman on the scientific method.
Claiming that there is vastly greater uncertainty than there actually is is an established tactic of those who don’t like the degree of consensus that actually exists, don’t have any actual evidence with which to challenge current understanding but wish to muddy the waters.
The generic name for such people is denialists.
If the scientific evidence is as you say please provide links to the research and I will happily review it. Doing science by sophistry is not something I engage in.
Ian Molton Since you claim to be a fan of science, and since AGW is the leading theory, it is on *YOU* to provide the evidence to *disprove* it.
My name is William Thompson. I am a Senior Scientist with the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention, where I have worked since 1998.
I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism. Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data were collected, and I believe that the final study protocol was not followed.
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