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- http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/forum/debunking-money-series-damon-vrabel-6-part-series/498
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_yh4-Zi92Q
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Damon has had two fairly different lives—one as an overachiever serving the financial empire, and another as a hopeful advocate for the victims of the empire: local community, indigenous population, the American republic, and the individual heart. He graduated from the United States Military Academy, served as an officer in the US Army, then graduated from Harvard Business School, took a short detour on Wall Street, and had a career in Silicon Valley in several leadership positions in technology corporations. Since leaving empire service, he became a mountaineer, attended Mars Hill Graduate School, and now works toward redemption as a writer and post-neoclassical economic philosopher.
Damon can be reached at: strabes23@gmail.comThis series of posts in comments to Keens article are interesting I believe the commentor is probably the author of the Videos Damon Vrabel. linked to the first of which is above.All Risk No Reward 10 months agoHi Steve,While the question you set out to answer is a common misconception, there is a much simpler way to explain the reality of the mechanism at play.Simply put, the bank accrues the interest on all new money (created from nothing) as an asset as the borrower accrues the interest liability. The interest is created, but it is **controlled** by the bank.Using your example as a guide, there is the Bank, the Firm, and the Workers. The Bank is the lender, The Firm is the borrow and the Workers work for the borrower. The Bank lends $100 million at 5% interest to the Firm (the only loan in this system). Double entry bookkeeping demands that an interest liability ($5 million in the first year) is accrued by the Firm and an interest asset is accrued by the Bank. Therefore, after one year, there monetary assets and liabilities balance at $105 million… the interest is absolutely create – AS AN ASSET ON THE BANK’S BALANCE SHEET.After 1 year, there is $95 million in the Firm / Worker system and $5 million in the Banker system.Now, in your scenario, you assumed something totally unrealistic – and Susana brought this out. The Banks don’t spend all their money back into society. They retain earnings (both the shareholders and the banking company itself.Since you assume this reality out of existence, your conclusion is incredibly misleading.Assuming the banks only spend half their $5 million back into the economy (leaving $2.5 million as retained earnings for the company and its shareholders), in 40 years there is exactly $0 money left in the economy ($2.5 million *40 = $100 million in Bank and Banker retained earnings).Now, how do you propose that the Firm in this economy, given this much more realistic basic scenario where reality isn’t assumed away, can generate profits greater than their $5 million in accrued interest liability when $0 is available in the economy and $100 million is controlled by Banks and Bankers… or is that Banksters.This is the prima facia fraud inherent in debt-money systems and you give the appearance that this very real mechanism is a myth. It is only a myth if the arguer assumes reality out of existence.The truth is actually very simple. Debt-money is a zero sum game. Money is effectively a debt receipt and only debt receipts can pay back the debt-money debts. One person’s net positive debt-money receipt position is someone else’s, or some other group’s, inextinguishable debt.This little video does an excellent job explaining this very simple to comprehend aspect of debt-money systems…Poverty – Debt is Not a Choice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juQc0rLdB-EMy next post will address this issue from a different angle, and one that contains 1/100 the conplexity of your example without losing the essence of truth.Top CommentREPLYFlagPermalink
All Risk No RewardAll Risk No Reward 10 months agoHi Steve,In order to make this issue as simple as possible, assume two segments of society: 1) The Money Lenders and 2) The Money Borrowers.The Money Lenders lend the Money Borrowers $100 million at 5% interest. In one year, the Money Borrowers owe $105 million due to double entry bookkeeping adjustments that add a $5 million interest expense to their balance sheet and a $5 million interest asset to the Money Lender balance sheet.How can the Money Borrowers pay the $105 million debt when they only have access to $100 million and the lender to whom they owe the money controls the only $5 million available to pay back the debt? WHO has the POWER in this scenario – the private Money Lender or the government, business (ex-banking), and citizenry Money Borrower? WHO finances the political apparatus?“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” ― Napoléon Bonaparte (Napoleon was a bad man, but he was no dummy! He took Sun Tzu’s advice and learned to know his enemy!)There are only two ways the debt can be paid after one year. Make the unrealistic assumption that the Money Lender voluntarily gave all $5 million (not keeping back one red cent!) back to the borrower because Mr. Lender is so charitable (really? Really?? Really???) OR CREATE MORE DEBT MAKING THE PREVIOUS DEBT PAYABLE.Now, you claim to have debunked this claim, but you haven’t until you can rationally address the issue above. Since the Money Lenders retain earnings (personally, through their corporate banking fronts, through their multinational corporate fronts, through their foundation fronts, etc…), society, by definition, doesn’t have access to the money required to pay their debts.It is true that I have assumed 100% retained earnings by the Money Lender. But I don’t need to. As I said, if they hold back even 1 cent, that loan can’t be paid back in full… it will be 1 cent short and the default assured. No matter how you slice it ALL POWER is in the hands of a privately operated banking cartel and in the hands of the Money Borrower (in reality, that is government, business outside the money creating banking cartel, and the every day citizen).By definition, the retained and closely held monetary wealth of the Bankers and their “club” are the INEXTINGUISHABLE DEBTS OF EVERYONE ELSE!Now, given the reality of Banker controlled retained monetary assets into the trillions, how do they manage the unpayable debts?They issue new debt in a closely controlled exponential manner. There very thing you claim to debunk is the very thing they actually do in order to keep the inextinguishable debts from collapsing Main Street before their “chosen time.”As you, the Bankers, and I well know, exponential debt growth is unsustainable. So the Bankers aren’t growing debt-money exponentially to “save the system,” rather, they are blowing the world’s biggest debt-money bubble in anticipation of eventually bankrupting and seizing the assets of others to the maximum extent possible.In closing, I’d like to share a clear insight the essence of a “bailout” with you and your audience.Continuing with the $100 million example, a “bailout” is when $100 in debt-money is created by the Big Banks out of thin air, the proceeds of which are stuffed into the pockets of the Banking corporate fronts, and the $100 million debt obligation is offloaded onto the general public even though they never received the $100 million in debt-money proceeds.Read that as many times as necessary to comprehend the Machiavellian evil that underlies “bailouts.”They are doing this in Europe, too. The Big Banks made bad loans to Greece, but the Big Banks want to get paid out. So they “bailout” Greece with money guaranteed by German and other pension funds and pay off the private Big Banks that made the bad loans in full, or at least nearly so.In essence, the Big Banks stole the pension funds of Germans and others, the Germans just haven’t figured it out yet. But they will.This stuff really isn’t that complex.”The basic objection I have to MMT is that it accepts that Governments are actually sovereign, I do not believe that that is the case. Governments should assert sovereignty and then if one then accepts that the debt based system can become benign with the primary objective of a job guarantee, then a case may be possible except that it does not address the questions related to infinite growth in a finite system these are aspects of the question which lietaer summarises here. http://www.lietaer.com/2010/09/effects-of-interest-based-currencies/re watching this at the momenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Ac7ap_MAY
“Princes of the Yen: Central Banks and the Transformation of the Economy” reveals how Japanese society was transformed to suit the agenda and desire of powerful interest groups, and how citizens were kept entirely in the dark about this.Based on a book by Professor Richard Werner, a visiting researcher at the Bank of Japan during the 90s crash, during which the stock market dropped by 80% and house prices by up to 84%. The film uncovers the real cause of this extraordinary period in recent Japanese history.Making extensive use of archival footage and TV appearances of Richard Werner from the time, the viewer is guided to a new understanding of what makes the world tick. And discovers that what happened in Japan almost 25 years ago is again repeating itself in Europe. To understand how, why and by whom, watch this film.“Princes of the Yen” is an unprecedented challenge to today’s dominant ideological belief system, and the control levers that underpin it. Piece by piece, reality is deconstructed to reveal the world as it is, not as those in power would like us to believe that it is.“Because only power that is hidden is power that endures.”A film by Michael Oswald -
I know who Damon Vrabel is. Although it isn’t his real name.He’s a spook.And it’s just really bad accounting.Interest payments to banks aren’t bank assets.They’re income.And yet again, sovereign currency issuers don’t borrow their money from banks.
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2. ”And yet again, sovereign currency issuers don’t borrow their money from banks.”
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5.4.2. Implications for government policy
5.4.3. Implications for bank regulation