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February 2 at 2:41 PM
Recently I’ve seen many rumors circulating about me and enormous amounts of hate. This is no surprise to me. I know that since most people are not aware of the …

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Mark Gibson Wish I’d seen this before posting ! Thanks for this disturbing piece of journalism – it’ll keep me busy for a while . Are you planning to ‘headline’ and share it ?

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Glyn Goodwin Tin hat article I suspect. Looks pretty suspect to me. Bit too much Soros and Al Gore bashing for comfort.

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Roger Lewis Mark Gibson Hi Mark it is against community standards apparently, Discussion with Clive Lord here https://clivelord.wordpress.com/…/comment-page-1/…

I do wonder why this young lady was not Embraced as enthusiastically by the Oligarchs as Greta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx5Sc3vWefE

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Roger Lewis Glyn Goodwin Really?

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Glyn Goodwin Yes, indeed Roger. Having spent time with all sorts of denial, this clearly falls within that. If you can’t attack the science attack the person. Classic ‘Merchants of Doubt’ tactic. 
You do realise this is a ‘Support the Greens’ forum? Are you a ‘Merchant of Doubt’ Roger?

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Roger Lewis Glyn Goodwin Glyn I am a critical realist Glyn thats quite another thing.

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Glyn Goodwin When ‘critical realism’ means smearing and attacking a schoolgirl for her parents rather than the science, that is the point where it crosses over into peddling doubt. 
I don’t know if you are a green supporter, but these are the tactics of fossil fuel. You are doing their job for them, is that what you want?

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Roger Lewis Glyn what science exactly is the PR machine communicating through emotiuonal virtue signalling,

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Roger Lewis Give me the Fact Mongers please

Roger G Lewis January 17, 2019 at 7:57 pm
Followed the link , as you say comments well worth reading.

https://notthegrubstreetjournal.com/2019/01/17/2342/

That Academic institutions are part of the Propaganda apparatus in late stage empires should not come as a suprise.
http://oestrem.com/thingstwice/2013/09/this-machine/

“What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Obama, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.”
Replace “Obama” with “Hitler”, and you have the original. It’s from Milton Mayer’s classic They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45, and the words are those of a university colleague of the author, explaining “the ever widening gap, after 1933, between the government and the people.”

https://wattsupwiththat.com/…/pielke-and-lomborg…/

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Glyn Goodwin As soon as you go to WUWT with an article defending Pielke Jr and Lomborg you reveal yourself as not a critical realist but a fossil fuel apologist:
Roger Pielke Jr“probably the single most disputed and debunked person in the science blogosphere, especially on the subject of extreme weather and climate change.”
https://www.skepticalscience.com/Roger_Pielke_Jr_blog.htm
Lomborg is equally tainted and has no scientific papers to his name. Funding for his activities are opaque: https://www.theguardian.com/…/australia-paying-4…

If you want to push the advantages of fossil fuel i’m sure we would all be delighted to hear you out.

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Roger Lewis Glyn Goodwin Glyn i see the lights are on but still no one at home in your grey matter department.
Pielke , Lomburg, Christy, Curry, Lindzen, a whole host of Luke warmers are all concerned about environmental issues but also are honest that what the IPCC claim and Alarmist PR trolls like yourself do is spread fear and effectively push a misanthropic authoritarian agenda.
There is lots of science on my Blog you can start here if you like
https://notthegrubstreetjournal.com/…/climate…/

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Glyn Goodwin You do not deny you are a ‘Merchant of Doubt’ then Roger?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqiCLuOtXts

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Glyn Goodwin That is all they have to do, spread doubt, no facts, doesn’t have to be right, just spread doubt.

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Mark Gibson Roger Lewis Thanks for your input . I appreciate the conversation which raises alarm bells as I’ve posted . This doesn’t have to be about ” climate denial” but it does have to be about corporate distraction via canny marketing . Who is leaping up and down about the hideous effects of air pollution at Davos for instance -? – nobody .

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Glyn Goodwin You think Davos was using Greta to make people think they care then Mark?

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Mark Gibson Glyn Goodwin Very political style leading question . Try answering my post .

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Glyn Goodwin Just trying to work out what you are getting at Mark.

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Glyn Goodwin If you would care to clarify things I would be delighted to respond.

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Mark Gibson Ask yourself this : how did this girl get invited to Davos and how did she get there ? Who paid her way and who will benefit ? How many Green advocates were invited , how many socialists ?

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Glyn Goodwin I have already replied to that.

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Glyn Goodwin So what are you driving at? What are you trying to insinuate?

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Glyn Goodwin So what are you driving at? What are you trying to insinuate?

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Glyn Goodwin What is that supposed to be Roger?

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Roger Lewis Its a guide to dealing with direct action tactics of the State against Protest On Line and on the streets. Very Useful its from the Occupy Movement.

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Roger Lewis Glyn, you keep reporting my posts so they are hidden from the discussion. The video on Merchants of doubt is pretty average Adam Curtiss century of self or chomsky’s manufacturing consent is much better or Robinsons The Bigger lie from the Scottish independence referendum.

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Glyn Goodwin I haven’t reported anything Roger.

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Roger Lewis Welll I keep getting messages there some pretty sketchy censorship going on

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Glyn Goodwin Nothing to do with me.

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Chris Hearty The power is in Greta’s words, When they were read to our council last week they were like a body blow to their pride. The Climate Emergency motion sailed through unanimously thanks to Greta. Oh and well done Positive Money for raising awareness of our ponsi economic system – easy to find fault – there is always something that is not perfect, as the Muslims always put a fault in their carpets to remind us of our falibilities

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Mark Gibson From a friend : ” she is sponsored by Davos globalists, Global Economic Forum… there is no climate change per se, as earth climate has never been stable. We can address all our pollution instead of taxing people while corporations continue to pollute more than never before, carbon tax is obviously a hoax… shut down the “fast fashion industry”, 2nd world polluter as a first step… end palm oil insane profits destroying the ecosystem…. how about that??? “. My reply : ” Excellent points . One real concern is that people are being killed by pollution – air, water , food , media. The other , as you say , is the theft of genuine concern by the elite for their own purposes – and our impoverishment . The day after posting this I regretted doing so – until your post ! Mea culpa . But still good to get the conversation out there , thank you .”.

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Mark Gibson Ask yourself this : how did this girl get invited to Davos and how did she get there ? Who paid her way and who will benefit ? How many Green advocates were invited , how many socialists ?

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Glyn Goodwin She has become someone people want to hear, she went by train, we will all benefit, what is the point of your questions?

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Simon de Groot Giving very young people tremendous attention is a very dangerous thing…quite evidently, we don’t have to look far to see how many young people have been damaged by it…Linking it to exploitation makes it even more ominous….
…. The cult of youth thing seems rather primitive to me…amazing we haven’t outgrown it entirely…

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Paul Sousek Thanks for reminding me, pretty dreadful dull speech with near zero content. David Malone would have been a radical leader. Shame almost everyone voted for the obvious and not for the most sensible, both leaders and deputy.

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