Guy Standing’s report on piloting basic income is being lauched @theRSAorg today! 🎉
Watch the livestream here: https://t.co/nO2KdkUR7Z
Read the report online here: https://t.co/SRxLxtbSpW
— Progressive Economy Forum (@PEF_online) May 7, 2019
very disappointing in the failure to consider let alone include monetary creation dynamics, focusing on Taxation is a mistake as it ignores debt and usury which is the driving force behind the wealth syphon but also the Growth Paradigm the report is also deluded in its lip service to the Alleged Climate Crisis, the heading of that section is ” Extinction” All in all #TheWrongKindofGreen both in an environmental but also monetary sense, Links in the Twitter thread which links to the full report. Worth reading this is a start albeit a flawed one. https://t.co/SRxLxtbSpW
The amount of taxes is not important whether or not they will be used and they will attain the outcomes we need is important.
And the way to ensure that we will receive the outcomes we need with those taxes is to have competent people with integrity who are really informd about technology.
The lack of these three factors (and maybe some more) have made many taxes go away… This is why people dont want to pay and dont believe in paying higher taxes.
Beardley Ruml , Taxation for revenue is obsolete. https://longhairedmusings.wordpress.c…
Even when pilots are done and even when they’re über-successful thanks to POLITICS they get reversed to a former and even worse situation.
Great speech!
Regarding The Climate Giant? emissions is a red herring carbon trading schemes damage the environment , See Clive Spashes work
The Green New deal is a faulty preserver of privileged not on that encourages the personal destiny control mentioned. #WrongKindofGreen. https://longhairedmusings.wordpress.c…
Reject the carbon currency end game Distributive Money creation models not re destributive taxes.
We need to reintroduce natural selection. Our genetics are far inferior to those of 1850. We are becoming pond life by propping up poor genetics that would have been removed from the gene pool
Lucas Davenport, harsh but true.
Labour has made this all worse
I Like Guy Standing my objection is the question of Money creation and positive interest rates are not examined Helmuth Kreutz, Margrit Kennedy and Bernard Leitaer understood these questions
Universal Basic Income is not going to solve the issue of Pareto distributions.
Intelligent people will save and invest their UBI, meaning wealth disparity will continue
https://longhairedmusings.wordpress.c… #WrongKindofGreen
Continiuing to execute a non-working system (or better yet a system which has repeadetly prooved that is destructive because it isnt working) is to create that destruction, deliberately.
the Labour Party under Blair set up the machinery used by The Work Programme, w*nkers!
you need universal basic services paired with UBI, or people will just end up back in poverty
“Why should we pay higher taxes? So they can create more of that destruction for us?” People may think…
She’s describing the pond life right now
10% of the population have an IQ < 83.
Lucas its 9 years since labour were in Power?
ehh if you can call new labour actually labour
I have many radical ideas. I can help. With pleasure.
The Tories dare not reverse Labour changes since their first ever government in the 1900s. Tories as much to blame, but Labour are all ways first movers on bad policy
Great speech!
the re-named A4E which defrauded the DWP on The Work Program now have the contract for Offender Education. God help us!
Energy Economics, Dangerous Exponential s Energy and prosperity https://longhairedmusings.wordpress.c…
yeah private companies running essential services is a recipe for fraud and misery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ffKR… The Unpolishable Turd.
Why? We trust private companies with most services we use.
UBI doesn’t give people the sense of AGENCY.
Milliband really is clueless. https://notthegrubstreetjournal.com/
UBI is a good start but it’s not the whole answer. Unless people will be able to buy their basic needs with that UBI it’s useless.
Money is just a trading-tool. If we’re gonna do the UBI we must also make sure that that UBI will be able to get people their basic needs.
that’s why you need universal basic services as well, UBI will just end up in landlords pockets otherwise
Super-true! Morinaka25
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Time Banking and Mutual Aid Networks, check ’em out, guys!
If the Pareto distribution is exponential then the wealth tax has to reflect that. Much of our IQ is “unearned” and is an accident of birth.
Very true!
e.g. in Hull-East Riding
UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME . ELITE NEO LIBERALS JUST NOT GETTING IT!
Miliband looks constipated
http://leconomistamascherato.blogspot… THE SWISS HOT BED OF ANARCHIST DEMOCRACY AND CYNICAL BANKERS
who do you love
No one cares about male suicide, except Phil Davies and Sargon of Akkad.
All humans are entitled to a dignified life. And this can be done with a well-designed system. Whether it’s name is UBI or X or Y.
Balderdash
bring the guap out
Bravo!
#MagicMoneyTree does exist and distributism Belloc/Chesterton gets to the heart of the matter. #WrongKindofGreen https://longhairedmusings.wordpress.c…
Retreaded old Piffle from an Elite fabian . Please spare us this Dynastic rubbish.
UBI is necessary and should be dealt with by Distributism at money creation level. Usury is the problem the unseen thief of prosperity
#MMT’s will be frothing Job Guarantee or UBI. UBI i prefer but both sides ignore Usury and money creation. #WrongkindofGreen
#ConquestofDough https://theconquestofdough.weebly.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=195HT… #MMT #GreenNewDeal #WrongkindofGreen
True!
Yes. Tangible results.
I like the idea that UBI is like being a shareholder in your own country.
a basic income is a useless idea ..it MUST be made financially worthwhile for (fit and healthy) people to start sharing the jobs we NEED people to do and enjoy working LESS.
UBI is a good start but hating the elites and forcing them to pay higher taxes especially when they themselves think and know +
+ that they can create more social welfare with it than the Governments can create is not going to work either.
you don’t pay people to do nothing …you pay them to share the jobs and let people start to enjoy working LESS
There is no such thing as a shortage of jobs…there is only a shortage of people sharing the work!!!!
This would result in: capital flight which is even worse for the overall social wellfare. It’s a very delicate balance.
People have to escape from this stupid idea that jobs have to be around 40 hours or more a week….and then there would be no such thing as a shortage of jobs
Yes. Economic output is not about time spent. Its about: production. Looking t it from that point and calculating it with time will cause the productivity to drop.
Great panel! Thank you! Enjoyed it very much!
whats the point of all the robots and automation taking over the work if the people who do still have jobs never get to enjoying working any LESS…
stupid humans can’t think of simply sharing the jobs and working LESS.
