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Atmospheric CO2 concentration year 1 to 2018

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  1. lobdillj
    June 15, 2019 at 4:51 pm

    Why do we allow fools and the insane to deny this and keep us sitting on our thumbs?

    • June 16, 2019 at 1:07 am

      I don’t

      • Econoclast
        June 16, 2019 at 5:37 pm

        I don’t, either.

        I am strongly aware of two things: the increasingly likely outcome is catastrophic collapse of multiple systems, rather than some new system formed by the tinkering reforms that dominate the conversation of all but the young people in the United States of America; and that if I make this collapse idea my dominant message, people will be bummed into inaction.

        So I do what I can, put forth realistic possibilities for local social action, act, and hope that others elsewhere are doing the same. I am pessimistic and avert cheerleader optimism, but I will never give up.

        Some wonderful people in my state have created The Children’s Trust, which is suing the federal government for encouraging the fossil fuel industry, among other things. The lead name in this lawsuit is a wonderful young woman named Kelsey Rose Cascadia Juliana. Find a YouTube of her and you’ll see she is our version of another powerful teenager, Greta Thunberg.

        And poet Dylan Thomas guides my emotions: “I will not go gently into that good night.”

        The graph is staggering as an image.

  2. June 15, 2019 at 5:22 pm

    You have a big problem there, its not one of either Climate Change or CO2 emissions its actually with the scaling of your axis.
    Try some Lord Monckton, Here he is on Brexit.
    https://notthegrubstreetjournal.com/2019/06/10/norway-eea-whats-the-good-of-mercators-north-poles-and-equators-tropics-zones-and-meridian-lines-merely-conventional-signs/
    And Here On the Climate Science basic errors in their modelling of course the Dismal Science is not very good at Dynamics is it?

    https://notthegrubstreetjournal.com/2019/06/11/political-cartoons/

    • José M. Sousa
      June 15, 2019 at 9:20 pm

      Please, Lord Monckton?! An imposter!

      • June 16, 2019 at 1:30 pm

        Monckton is a Lord of the British Realm, he does not sit in the now Re constituted House of Lords, that does not make him an Imposter.
        Secondly Regarding Monckton’s paper on the errors in basic Climate modelling his Status as a British Peer of the realm has nothing to do with the mathematics of modelling feedbacks.
        FInally, perhaps William Happer or Freeman Dyson will tick more of your boxes for an appropriate expert qualified opinion.


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      • John Hermann
        June 16, 2019 at 5:56 pm

        He is an imposter in the sense that he presents himself as an expert on the subject of climate change. However he has no scientific qualifications, and in particular none in the field of climate science. If he had some peer-reviewed publications under his name in reputable climate science journals, then I might be persuaded to take him more seriously.

    • Charlie Thomas
      June 16, 2019 at 10:21 pm

      0 on y axis in this case is NOT a meaningful value . You have jumped to an erroneous assumption. Zero CO2 is impossible value.

  3. Ikonoclast
    June 16, 2019 at 12:20 am

    The graph appears to be from Our World in Data so direct your complaints about removal of the x-axis origin point to that site.;)

    It’s not a good idea generally to remove graph origin points. However, all sorts of decisions are made and have to made in terms of origin points, scaling, cropping, etc., in order to present graphs. Graphs are best seen in context; meaning in a paper with text, tables and appendices of raw data. The trouble is so few people want to read scientific papers. Part of the point of having some scientific education, even if one hasn’t gone on to become a scientist, is to employ that scientific literacy by reading a bit of science reporting, including in some cases original papers. But climate change denialists are science illiterates so they can’t read and understand the scientific papers.

    As to what all the data behind that graph are telling us? In summary, we appear to be in a lot of trouble. It looks like a runaway, exponential trend with positive feedback reinforcing. The science and data behind that graph back up that impression to a high degree of certainty.

    But of course, climate change denialists understand neither science, nor mathematics, nor logic. What they engage in is faith-based reasoning. Faith is blind belief without evidence. Scientific evidence is sought objectively, is measurable and confirmed by multiple observations. Scientific knowledge is never absolutely certain. It is the faith-based reasoners who claim to be absolutely certain. Good science always presents objective data and expresses a confidence rating for its conclusions.

  4. John Hermann
    June 16, 2019 at 6:24 am

    The scaling of the axis is just fine and it is unnecessary to locate the zero line What it tells us is that for 1900 years (and probably far longer) atmospheric carbon dioxide hovered around 280 ppm and that during the past 50 years it has risen from around this value to 400 ppm, and is currently still rising at a rapid rate.

  5. June 16, 2019 at 9:48 am

    What is the transition to a sustainable economy about? It is not about letting globalized corporations destroy the planet and leaving its rescue to the individual choice of consumers.
    Why should I have the burden to chose if I buy fair trade or bastard child slave labour coffee? Choice is not freedom.
    Environmental and social damaging production must be prohibited by law.
    We already have done this successfully with narcotics. No one would leave the buying decision to the drug adict.

  6. Ikonoclast
    June 16, 2019 at 10:50 am

    I agree, the graph is question is a case where the base line is more important than the zero line. At the zero line (0% CO2) the earth would be an ice-ball on the surface. The 280 ppm line is a line well suited to agriculture.

    It seems significant that agriculture and civilization arose in the Holocene. I term it the “Holocene Benignity” (of climate). It’s a clumsy term and for sure it won’t catch on. What it encapsulates is that it seems we needed a benign climate to Invent and develop agriculture and thence civilization. We still need this benign climate to sustain agriculture. Instead. we are wrecking this benign climate. I would predict severe food crises arising this century and maybe arising well before 2050.

  7. John Hermann
    June 16, 2019 at 11:22 am

    I agree. Shifting climatic patterns could possibly result in droughts within temperate regions where food crops are currently grown, as well as greater and more frequent monsoonal rains, flooding and hurricanes within tropical and semi-tropical regions.

  8. Ikonoclast
    June 16, 2019 at 11:54 pm

    My own feeling is that climate is noticeably changing where I live in South-East Queensland, Australia. Of course, my personal observations and feelings are just anecdotal evidence. But when one’s personal experience provides a little back-up to the scientific picture, it makes the abstract data start to feel a little more concrete. Am I being suggestible or am I noticing something real? That is the question.

    So, what changes do I feel I have I noticed in our sub-tropical climate?

    (1) Winter frosts were always sporadic but did occur in low lying areas when I was a boy. I haven’t seen a frost in something like the last 30 years now in my local area.

    (2) Our winters are clearly warmer and wetter than they were. A few years back we had a winter rain event more severe than any summer rain event we had ever seen. This seemed completely anomalous as our mid-winters historically have been dry. Yesterday, we had winter thunderstorm. Again, this is almost unheard of in our climate.

    (3) Our summers (which were historically wet) are becoming drier.

    (4) Overall, our weather is becoming windier. This has been very noticeable with very windy weather occurring in months which historically have been the calmer months.

    Australia has always been, in human memory, a land of climate extremes, being called “a land of droughts and flooding rains”. This is true but the general picture now seems to be of the extremes getting even more extreme. This will certainly make agriculture even more difficult. It feels to me that the climate is becoming more unstable (anecdotal “feelings” evidence of course). Higher perturbation and instability could of course be the result of more heat energy in the system. The dots connect in my view.

  9. June 19, 2019 at 5:47 am

    Test

  • June 19, 2019 at 5:51 am

    “Climate Change is Real” is The Sky is Blue, does the pope wear a funny hat? Is CO2 the control Knob for Global Warming?, This is a very different question. What is the crisis? I think Dennis Rancourt is correct in the following thesis that the crisis is a crisis in Dollar Hegemony and a lot of the rest is a result of the old Binary choice of Guns or Butter.

    Historical emergence of climate change, gender equity, and anti-racism as State doctrines. (Denis G. Rancourt) This is a lightly edited, highly abridged version of a recent paper by Denis G. Rancourt; possibly the most important piece of political research of the last half-century. During the Bretton Woods period, from 1945 to 1971, the USA experienced a growing deterioration of its preeminence as the main trade-surplus nation, and projected a difficulty in honouring the gold redeeming arrangement if confidence in the USA dollar were to falter. “On August 15, 1971, without prior warning to the leaders of the other major capitalist powers, US president Nixon announced in a Sunday evening televised address to the nation that the US was [unilaterally] removing the gold backing from the dollar.”

https://rwer.wordpress.com/comments-on-rwer-issue-no-70/

A monetary case for value-added negative tax Michael Kowalik [Toolangi, Australia]

 

Abstract I address the most fundamental yet routinely ignored issue in economics today: that of distributive impact of the monetary system on the real economy. By re-examining the logical implications of token re-presentation of value and Irving Fisher’s theory of exchange, I argue that producers of value incur incidental expropriation of wealth associated with the deflationary effect that new value supply has on the purchasing power of money. In order to remedy the alleged inequity I propose a value-added negative tax (VANT) based on net individual contribution to the economic output, which is structured as a negative tax function geared to profits derived from eligible productive activities in consideration of their estimated deflationary impact. I show that an adequately optimised VANT can be non-inflationary and have zero net cost to the public. Furthermore, economic output stands to improve due to direct incentivisation of value creation, making the proposed scheme not only politically feasible but economically desirable. The proposal advances the principle of ‘fair money’, where all forms of economic value are attributed to their rightful owners prior to any positive taxation. Keywords Money Definition, Monetary Systems, Monetary Policy, Negative Income Tax, Theory of Exchange, Fair Money JEL Codes E31, E40, E42, E51, E62, H23

https://culturalanalysis.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/RWER70-Kowalik-Author-Version-1.pdf

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  1. Don Stewart on June 19, 2019 at 2:05 pm said:
    @Roger Lewis and All
    Is CO2 the knob? It’s one knob. Another is the disrupted water cycle. The water cycle is far larger than the CO2 cycle in terms of influence on climate, both globally and locally. Walter Jehne is trying to bring attention to the water cycle and point us in the direction of what we can do about it. The Call of the Reed Warbler by the Australian farmer Charles Massy discusses Jehne’s evidence in some detail, and gives examples of farmers who are doing something about it. In order to influence the water cycle, one must also influence carbon in the soil, which, of course, is carbon that doesn’t go into the air or seas as carbon dioxide.

    But there are multiple systems which are currently threatening humanity and prompting a Sixth Mass Extinction. And, of course, the falling quality of fossil fuels threatens humanity, but not the rest of life, at least directly. A new paper gives a good look at the prospects for ‘life after fossil fuels’. You can find a synopsis by searching on:

    Geo-cultural Time: Advancing Human Societal Complexity Within Worldwide Constraint Bottlenecks—A Chronological/Helical Approach to Understanding Human–Planetary Interactions
    The full text has been copied onto Gail Tverberg’s site, which you can find by looking in the comments section of her current post. Or you can purchase the article for around 40 dollars from Springer.

    Briefly, the study warns about all sorts of dysfunctional behavior ending in the survivors living in the equivalent of neolithic villages. But you should read their words for yourself. The article describes our current economic system as dysfunctional in terms of human survival.

    Don Stewart

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