As we have established before UBI is something we agree on as we also do regarding Post Growth.
If I can be of any assistance at all it is by suggesting that you would be better off talking with Justin Walker ( also a founder member of the Green Party)
The Green New Dealers and The Modern Monetary Theory people are being exposed as pretty extreme Stalinist types, Clive.
This dialogue which you had is alarming although not surprising to me, Green Fascist/Stalinist ideology is more evident today than ever.
But I had a discussion with one of the founders before I left, which went as follows:
Me(Clive Lord): “You are proposing a recession, possibly deep, and possibly long term. Recessions produce hardship. What are your plans when people riot because of shortages”?
Founder Member( Of ecology Party of England and Wales): “We shall call it a steady state economy. But if necessary, Martial Law. You have just come 100 miles to agree with us, right? So do you agree that if we have to shoot a few people in the street to get through the transition, that will be rather less nasty than what will happen if we do nothing? If you have a better idea, you had better come up with it fast”.
Critical reflection on practice is a requirement of the relationship between theory and practice. Otherwise, theory becomes simply “blah, blah, blah, ” and practice, pure activism. Paulo Freire.
Physician Heal Thyself. Luke 4.23