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Of all the places to be quarantined, a brothel in Valencia, Spain, might not be the worst. You’ve got booze, you’ve likely got a small buffet of fried foods and you’ve got entertainment.

But in all seriousness, that was exactly the case a day ago when authorities found that a woman working at the “La Selva Negra” brothel had tested positive for coronavirus. The findings forced authorities to quarantine the premises and the 86 customers that were inside.

The employee, who is now in the hospital, had “slept with several clients that same night,” according to a translated blog post on the story.

In addition to the customers, the club’s owners, waitresses, security and cleaning crew were also quarantined. When added to the total of 86 customers, it makes 119 people under quarantine. They have been asked to “keep calm” and to just “live a normal life” inside the premises.

  1. Devils advocate here:

    Even if growth in prosperity has generally gone into reverse, I wonder if there isn’t still enough surplus energy in total for the current economic system to absorb the shock from COVID-19 and continue more or less in its current form. My statement assumes worse case Covid-19 pandemic scenarios do not materialize.

I’ve have to admit finding this pretty funny…………..

  • #92: Pianists in a brothel
    https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/2017/04/04/92-pianists-in-a-brothel/
    There is a story (which may well be apocryphal) about an Italian politician who took a friend home to meet his mother. On the way, he warned his friend that his mother was a rather grand old lady, with high notions of decency and respectability. For this reason, he had not informed her that he was in politics, and asked his friend to keep his secret. “If she knew I was a minister in the government”, he said, “she would be appalled”.

    His friend asked him what his mother thought he did do for a living. “She thinks I play the piano in a brothel”, replied the politician. “That’s far more respectable”.

Tony [Jackson] used to play these things for what, in the sporting houses, for what they called the naked dances. Of course, they were naked dances all right because they absolutely was stripped. They was stripped. Of course, a naked dance was something that was supposed to be real art in New Orleans. Of course, there were many houses in New Orleans. The District there was considered the second to France, meaning the second greatest in the world, with extensions for blocks and blocks, on one side of the north side of Canal Street, which is supposed to be the highest class, although the highest class district ran from the lowest to the highest, meaning in price and caliber alike. We had a uptown side of the District, which was considered very big, but the price was pretty much even all the way round. And of course they turned out a many different artists in that section, but never the first-class artist because the money wasn ‘t there.Alan Lomax: What were some of the tunes they used to play down the lower class districts?

The Reasoning here about Fake growth that is predicated upon borrowed money is slightly confusing in that Almost all Money is Borrowed, That some money is spent on Production or Investment for future consumption and some is spent on Current Consumption is a distinction I can follow both for Money ( Debt Based Money) but would also hold true for Energy Based Metrics, That is if we are spending or investing energy budgets we can Spend available energy on investment or on Current consumption.

If one did a Stocktake of all potential production with existing energy resources, how would that Look? Prosperity for a Single Income minimum Wage Single Parent in Detroit looks a lot different to An Upper Middle-Class Graduate from Connecticut? If Money is reinvented around Energy Realities rather than the realities of Debt Based Money where would we choose to head, and whose measure of prosperity would we adopt?

If we look at The Petro Dollar and its problems based on the old Free lunch ( exorbitant privilege paradigm) Mr. Trump or any US president is faced with the same problems, On EROI measures if Energy is invested on Infrastructure both Transport and Energy surely there is a way out of the current quagmire?
On a business as usual scenario, War seems to be the present Answer from those stuck in the Old Paradigm, and president Trump seems to have been co-opted into that course of action. Should President trump manage to free himself from the PENAC ( Project for a new American Century) Crowd What is the realistic view for an energy based economy?
I thought this Roger Pelke Talk was very good, It would be disastrous to see a marginalisation and Polarisation of the Energy Based Economy debate, in the same way as the Climate Question became so poisoned.
Climate Politics as Manichean Paranoia – Roger Pielke Jr @ The GWPF, July 2017

David Korten is an economist, author, and former Professor of the Harvard Business School. His political activism has made him a prominent critic of corporate globalization. His 2006 book “The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community” argues that the development of empires about 5,000 years ago initiated unequal distribution of power and social benefits to a small portion of the population.

I think And Energy Based View from a Main Street and not Wall Street Perspective could see the #MAGA project gain traction, the Hawkish view which seems to have prevailed will see a great deal of Energy Wasted in all senses of the word Energy.

http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2017/09/the-american-dream-main-street-versus.html

  • Thanks. You raise a large number of issues, some of which I’ll need to follow up before I can comment.

    Yes, money is ‘loaned into existence’. But, however created, it is still a “claim” on real economic output. If that claim can’t be met then, by definition, it has to be destroyed. This makes its owner – or the creditor to whom it belongs – poorer.

    Part of the problem is that money is accepted as a “store of value” – so, if someone owes me $1, I count that as an asset. If he cannot pay me, then I’m $1 ‘poorer’. No-one has yet demonstrated how we can ‘let off’ debtors without leaving creditors short-changed – and these creditors are often debtors to others.

    Some engineering solutions might be possible – but we seem unable to find them. For instance, the WEF report on pension shortfalls couldn’t suggest much more than higher savings ratios, which aren’t practicable, as they would need to be far too high to be affordable. Getting returns on investment higher would “solve” the problem, but only by raising interest rates. And so on……..

  • Hello Tim, Thanks for the reply.
    If we are talking about the existing System the problem is one of Assymetric Risk and lack of moral hazard, Taleb has fully examined these questions and This Interview of his I found very useful.
    http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2013/09/taleb_on_skin_i.html#.VaZCuLFowo4.blogger
    http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2015/07/so-how-much-skin-do-troika-have-in-game.html
    http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2015/07/on-skin-in-game-interestinf-question.html
    I was looking at your Seeds report for Greece earlier and the Curves certainly do not point to the huge disaster that has unfolded there in the last 7 years Which is more properly expressed by the curves in this blog http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2015/07/bricks-without-straw-pharoh-merkel.html

    The Stock taking point I make is a serious question that needs addressing Both in terms of the existing system but any proposed energy based alternative. Energy Investment Decisions I would argue are better made in local scale up to regional scale levels and not from Supra National down to national levels.It really boils down to a question of Scale and Democracy.

    Whether it is Energy Based Exchange Tokens or debt based debt tokens the political question remains the basic one of what is the balance between Subsidiarity and Centralisation a Balance the EU and ECB has badly wrong and which the Fed and US Federal Government have badly wrong and which has also been got badly wrong in the UK,
    I live in Sweden where subsidiarity in Local Government is very real it is also true that subsidiarity remains at the core of the Success of Germany. This Interview with Prof Richard Werner is very good on the lessons from the German Model.
    https://vid.me/fEw7t
    https://www.rt.com/shows/renegade-inc/379579-uk-finance-curse-suffer/

  • Roger:

    Thanks. I’m glad you mentioned that download for Greece, as I really need to replace these with new ones. Point taken, though.

    You’re right, too, about local decision-making. One implication of renewables is that they change the economics, taking away the economies of scale that have hitherto favoured small numbers of large generating sites. This has been called “utility death syndrome”, and has been discussed here before – and it certainly favours localism.

    The UK is extremely centralised, as I know becaise I was a local councillor for quite a few years before I emigrated. British energy policy has been inept, putting off nuclear replacement decisions for far too long, ending up with the hugely expensive Hinkley Point(less) project, and spending vast sums subsidising wind.

    https://notthegrubstreetjournal.com/2017/08/29/renewableseroi-why-money-doesnt-cut-it-when-making-energy-investment-decisions/

    https://www.zerohedge.com/health/silver-linings-playbook-119-people-quarantined-brothel-spain

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