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From Norfolk to Bellmarsh, Assange whilst under house arrest Prescient on Mrna. The Techno Fascism of Thiel and Schmidt. All about control.
I beleive at this point that Vaccine hysteria is actually the objective of TPTB and it is a good strategy whilst a full spectrum surviellance apparatus through digital passports is put in Place, The Chinese Model, Aadhaar and CBDC , State monopoly capitalism, Palantir and Thiel are key aspects to these technocratic world views.
I am not going to say governments. The whole structure of the society. The economic structure. And that people learn that simple altruistic acts don’t pay off and they see that some people who act in non altruistic ways end up getting Porsches and fast cars, and it tends to pull people in that direction. I thought about this a while ago when I saw there was this fantastic video that came out of Stanford in about ’69 on nuclear synthesis of DNA. Have you seen it?
It’s on youtube. It’s great. A wonderful thing. So it is explaining nuclear synthesis through interpretive dance. And so there are like a hundred and thirty Stanford students out there pretending to be DNA, a whole bunch pretending to be a ribosomal subunit and da da da. And all wearing the hippy clothes of the day. But they were all actually very bright people. And I looked at that and thought, could Stanford.. and it was a very good bit of education, so it is not that it was cool and unusual, rather that it was extremely instructive, and before computer animation was the best representation of how a ribosomal unit behaves. Could you see Stanford doing that now? Absolutely impossible. It is far too conservative for it to do that now, even though that was an extremely effective education… you can bet everyone who was in that dance remembers exactly how nuclear synthesis occurs, because they all had to remember their parts. And I remember it having seen it. No, rather that period of peak earnings for the average wage in the United States was, what, like ’77? That certain things simply happened. That those people who were altruistic and not too concerned about finances and fiscalization simply lost power relative to those people who were more concerned about finances and fiscalization and worked their way up in the system.
So certain behaviours were disincentivized and others were potentiated. And that is primarily I believe as a result of technology that enables fiscalization. So fast bank transfers. The IRS being able to account for lots of people, it sucks people into a very rigid fiscalized structure. So you can have a lot of political change in the United States. But will it really change that much? Will it change the amount of money in someone’s bank account? Will it change contracts? Will it void contracts that already exist? And contracts on contracts, and contracts on contracts on contracts? Not really. So I say that free speech in many places – in many Western places – is free not as a result of liberal circumstances in the West but rather as a result of such intense fiscalization that it doesn’t matter what you say. ie. the dominant elite doesn’t have to be scared of what people think, because a change in political view is not going to change whether they own their company or not. It is not going to change whether they own a piece of land or not. But China is still a political society. Although it is radically heading towards a fiscalized society. And other societies, like Egypt was, are still heavily politicized. And so their rulers really do need to be concerned about what people think, and so they spend a portion of efforts on controlling freedom of speech.
JC
So if you were…
JA
But I think young people have fairly good values. Of course it’s a spectrum and so on. But they have fairly good values most of the time. And they want to demonstrate them to other people and you can see this when people first go to university and so on. And they become hardened as a result of certain things having a pay off and other things not having a payoff. Studying for an exam, constantly, even though in some cases the work is completely mindless, and pointless, has a payoff at the end of the year, but going and talking to someone and doing a favour doesn’t have a payoff at the end of the year. And so this disincentivizes some behaviours and incentivizes other ones.
JC
But let me tease out some of this, I mean it sounds like you have got a view of the globe with certain societies where the impact of technology is relatively slight, certain societies where politically the impact of technology can be quite great, and certain societies where it would be at a sort of middling way. And you would put China into I guess the middling category.
JA
Well, it’s starting to…
JC
Since our book is all about technology and social transformation ten years down the line… what’s the globe that you see given the structure that you are describing?
JA
I am not sure about the impact on China. It is still a political society, so the impact could be very great. I mean I often say that censorship is always cause for celebration. It is always an opportunity, because it reveals fear of reform. It means that the power position is so weak that you have got to care about what people think.
JC
Right. It’s like you find the sensitive documents by watching them hunt.
JA
Exactly.
ES
This is a very interesting argument.
JC
Sorry, I didn’t mean to interrupt.
JA
So when the Chinese express all this energy on censoring in all these novel ways, do we say that it is a complete waste of time and energy, or do they have a whole bunch of experience managing the country and understand that it matters what people think? I say it is much more reasonable to interpret it as the different groups different actors within China who are able to control that censorship system understand correctly that their power position is weak and they need to be careful what people think. So they have to censor.
JC
So the state is rational, at least in its repression.
JA
I am always worried in talking about the state, because it’s all individuals acting in their own perceived interest. Some, this group or that group.
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I beleive at this point that Vaccine hysteria is actually the objective of TPTB and it is a good strategy whilst a full spectrum surviellance apparatus through digital passports is put in Place, The Chinese Model, Aadhaar and CBDC , State monopoly capitalism, Palantir and Thiel are key aspects to these technocratic world views.
So, on the one hand we have live dynamic services and organizations… well there’s three things. Live dynamic services. Organizations that run those services, so that you are referring to a hierarchy. You are referring to a system of control. An organization, a government, that represents an organized evolving group. And on the other hand you have artefacts. You have human intellectual artefacts that have the ability to be completely independent from any system of human control. They are out there in the Platonic realm somehow. And shouldn’t in fact be referred to by an organization. They should be referred to in a way that is intrinsic to the intellectual content, that arises out of the intellectual content! I think that is an inevitable and very important way forward, and where this… where I saw that this was a problem was dealing with a man by the name of Nahdmi Auchi. A few years ago was listed by one of the big business magazines in the UK as the fifth richest man in the UK. In 1980 left Iraq. He’d grown rich under Saddam Hussein’s oil industry. And is alleged by the Italian press to be involved in a load of arms trading there, he has over two hundred companies run out of his Luxembourg holding unit. And several that we discovered in Panama. He had infiltrated the British Labour political establishment to the degree that the 20th business birthday in London he was given a painting signed by 146 members Commons including Tony Blair. He’s the same guy who was the principal financier of Tony Rezko. Tony Rezko was the financier and fundraiser of Rod Blagoyevich, from Chicago. Convicted of corruption. Tony Rezko has been convicted of corruption. And Barack Obama. He was the intermediary who helped Barack Obama buy one of his houses and then the money not directly for the house but it bouyed up Tony Rezko’s finances came from that… [indistinct]. So during the – this is detail, but it will get to a point. During the 2008 presidential primaries a lot of attention was turned to Barack Obama by the US press, unsurprisingly. And so it started to look into his fundraisers, and discovered Tony Rezko, and then they just started to turn their eyes towards Nadhmi Auchi. Auchi then hired Carter Ruck, a rather notorious firm of London libel solicitors, whose founder, Carter Ruck, has been described as doing for freedom of speech what the Boston strangler did for door to door salesmen.
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JA
And he started writing letters to all of the London papers who had records of his 2003 extradition to France and conviction for corruption in France over the Elf-Acquitaine scandal. Where he had been involved in taking kickbacks on selling the invaded Kuwaiti governments’ oil refineries in order to fund their operations while Iraq had occupied it. So the Guardian pulled three articles from 2003. So they were five years old. They had been in the Guardian’s archive for 5 years. Without saying anything. If you go to those URLs you will not see “removed due to legal threats.” You will see “page not found.” And one from the Telegraph. And a bunch from some American publications. And bloggers, and so on. Important bits of history, recent history, that were relevant to an ongoing presidential campaign in the United States were pulled out of the intellectal record. They were also pulled out of the Guardian’s index of articles. So why? The Guardian’s published in print, and you can go to the library and look up those articles. They are still there in the library. How would you know that they were there in the library? To look up, because they are not there in the Guardian’s index. Not only have they ceased to exist, they have ceased to have ever existed. Which is the modern implementation of Orwell’s dictum that he controls the present controls the past and he who controls the past controls the future. Because the past is stored physically in the present. All records of the past. This issue of preserving politically salient intellectual content while it is under attack is central to what WikiLeaks does — because that is what we are after! We are after those bits that people are trying to suppress, because we suspect, usually rightly, that they’re expending economic work on suppressing those bits because they perceive that they are going to induce some change. at about 30 mins, this is very very interesting . further
Julian and David Graeber on the eve of the Brexit vote. I watched it live on the night.
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NHS running lean, Julian is in Bellmarsh, in 2011 he describes how the pyramid of censorship worked then , it has only got worse and the main thing is self censorship which again has got worse. and then theres Aaron Swartz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz
and the memory hole is so effective with the URL point made by Julian here. And because it takes too long to describe this tomato precisely we use an abstraction so we can think about it so we can talk about it. And we do that also when we use URLs. Those are frequently used as a short name for some human intellectual content. And we build all of our civilization, other than on bricks, on human intellectual content. And so we currently have system with URLs where the structure we are building our civilization out of is the worst kind of melting plasticine imaginable. And that is a big problem. of course the wayback machine helps.
https://archive.org/details/TranscriptOfSecretMeetingBetweenJulianAssangeAndGoogleCEOEricSchmidt
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Aaron Swartz
https://en.wikipedia.org
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“Well, conspiracy theory was invented by the spies. No one does more more conspiracy theory than spies do. The national security apparatus cooks up conspiracy theories all the time, but they put out this story that is just conspiracy theory, as though it’s contemptible. But in fact, they’re the ones who cook up the threats that are far more complex and bizarre than anything we ordinary people could ever cook up and they get billions to fight it. So they’re almost diabolically conspiratorially. So let me call myself a sceptic and I’m willing to learn, welcome criticism. I don’t mind these terms of being a dissident, a conspiracy theorist. Those are all throwaway terms. (interview with RT Jan 2, 2011)”
John Young [2]
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/John_Young
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Limited_hangout#Modified_limited_hangout
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I beleive at this point that Vaccine hysteria is actually the objective of TPTB and it is a good strategy whilst a full spectrum surviellance apparatus through digital passports is put in Place, The Chinese Model, Aadhaar and CBDC , State monopoly capitalism, Palantir and Thiel are key aspects to these technocratic world views.
This is what Censorship trying to understand free speech sounds like.
At 2hrs 24 mins.
Well nobody… people noticed the Guantanamo stuff, but not to the household name. We were a journalistic name pretty quickly. And in the techno part of the human rights community we were a name pretty quickly. And we were in the internet educated German and English speaking publics, especially towards the crypto-security end we were a name pretty quickly. So for example when we did a fundraising effort in the beginning of 2010 to May 2010, before Collateral Murder, we raised a million bucks. So you know for a new sort of, new in terms of concept, non profit journalism group to raise a million bucks in 20 dollar donations — that’s almost completely unheard of And we were doing that before Collateral Murder. So Collateral Murder made us into a worldwide… no not even collateral murder didy. Made us into a US household name. All these things start to stack up. By the end of the year, and really it was the Pentagon’s attack against us, and the Swedish sex case funnily enough, that then made us into a worldwide household name with 84% name recognition worldwide.
JC
Wow.
ES
That’s interesting. So, on the assumption that the current legal stuff is all resolved, the next few years are… what happens with WikiLeaks, it becomes… Again, we want to talk about for us t=0 is a year from now, so we’re thinking about a year from now, next year the next year. Does WikiLeaks just become bigger, more donors, more technology, you going to change it in some way?
JA
There is lots of changes. I think this idea I had about how to structure intellectual information is important. So we will overlay that…
ES
So that’s… that’s actually a part of your plan, that you’re talking about.
JA
When you do have a presence… When you have such public recognition, you have the luxury of being able to take fairly complex intellectual ideas and push them up. That would normally take a long time to sort of organically get traction, like Sun did with Java, for example, they take a long time to organically get traction, but you can put your weight behind them and push them up so we have some of those moves we can make. But also I’ve seen that it’s very difficult for us to be a command and control organization. You spoke about the difficulties that you had to learn with Novell, but for us as an organization, like a command and control organization with a leadership and people who carry out tasks, we are in a position where we have the full force of a superpower and its investigative organs, and the rest of NATO, operating against us, bribing people, monitoring communications, etc, so that means that for us any little psychological weakness in our people, any friction between our people, can lead to those forces plucking them off.
ES
You could be infiltrated you mean. In theory.
JA
Yeah. Infiltrated. The plucking off I think is a bigger problem.
ES
No I mean… But the forces opposed to you…
JA
But you are right about the infiltration…
ES
But the forces opposed to you, they will think, okay, this is a foreign actor, let’s send our agent in, become a member, discover all their secrets.
JA
Right, and we are aware of that problem and we investigate people, and so on. But what that means is that it has tremendously slowed down our growth. Because you can’t just put an ad out and say we want you to have these skills and come into the office, it is absolutely impossible. So growth is constrained in that way. But there is another way of leading, and that is leading through values instead of command and control. And when you lead through values you don’t need to trust people, and values and the number of people who can adopt the value, there is no limit on the speed of adoption. It all happens very quickly. It’s not, supply, in terms of employer supply limited, rather it’s demand limited, as soon as people demand a value they adopt it.
ES
I see that, the way I express that, is that the power of an idea is under-appreciated. That you can get the idea inserted correctly then millions of people… My comment would be that the deeper ideas that you are talking about they are either not understood or they are being fought by misinformation. You know as you said it’s a clever use of words, turned against you, what have you. So you have I think a challenge to get the deeper arguments that you have made to us, heard over all these other forces.
JA
Saying it… well, if you say lies for long enough people start to believe it as well, but so this, the “Afghan release was a terrible thing.” This has now spread so fast that we are basically given up trying to knock it down. The energy is better off spent doing something else. But we do see that we are educating a whole range of people about us and about our values and about things that we believe in. And now what is happening is that these people are finding each other across the world and across states. And we are creating our own computational network of human beings that can think in the same way, that on a point to point basis can trust each other. We started out last year in a position where we had this big confrontation with the State Department, and the Pentagon at the same time. One of our few claims to success is that we’ve managed to get the Pentagon and the State Department to cooperate.
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Description:
In June 2011, Julian Assange received an unusual visitor: the chairman of Google, Eric Schmidt, arrived from America at Ellingham Hall, the country residence in Norfolk, England where Assange was living under house arrest.
For several hours the besieged leader of the world’s most famous insurgent publishing organization and the billionaire head of the world’s largest information empire locked horns. The two men debated the political problems faced by society, and the technological solutions engendered by the global network—from the Arab Spring to Bitcoin. They outlined radically opposing perspectives: for Assange, the liberating power of the Internet is based on its freedom and statelessness. For Schmidt, emancipation is at one with US foreign policy objectives and is driven by connecting non-Western countries to American companies and markets. These differences embodied a tug-of-war over the Internet’s future that has only gathered force subsequently.
When Google Met WikiLeaks presents the story of Assange and Schmidt’s encounter. Both fascinating and alarming, it contains an edited transcript of their conversation and extensive, new material, written by Assange specifically for this book, providing the best available summary of his vision for the future of the Internet.
Table of contents :
BEYOND GOOD AND “DON’T BE EVIL” 1
THE BANALITY OF “DON’T BE EVIL” 53
ELLINGHAM HALL , JUNE 23, 2011 61
From Those Who See, to Those Who Act 65
THE NAMING OF THINGS 80
COMMUNICATING IN A REVOLUTIONARY MOMENT 108
CENSORSHIP IS ALWAYS CAUSE FOR CELEBRATION 115
Secrecy Is Criminogenic 130
INTERLUDE 149
IT’S NOT EASY TO DO A WIKILEAKS 155
TOTAL PUBLISHING 165
THE PROCESS IS THE END GAME 182
DELIVER US FROM “DON’T BE EVIL” 193
Background on U.s. v. WikiLeaks 205
ACKNOWLEDGMENTS 221
Note on References 223
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